Bagel snobs

Uhura: but the bagel was so good
JPennant: heheh
JPennant: think i'll go over to berkeley tomorrah and get some bagels
Uhura: i may pick up a dozen here from bergen bagels
Uhura: they opened one near me
Uhura: i'll get the rest of my stuff from the store
Uhura: or maybe i'll just make french toast
JPennant: hard to find good NY style bagels here
JPennant: I go to a place in North Berkeley called Boogie Woogie Bagel Boy
JPennant: about the best place Ive found out here to buy something that tastes close to NY style
Uhura: it's the water
JPennant: heh
JPennant: could be
Uhura: i mean why can't you get good pizza in florida?
Uhura: folks there know how to make it
Uhura: but the water isn't the same
Uhura: there is something to be said about nyc tap
JPennant: Dunno. the best pizza is in Chicago :-)
Uhura: ok, why can't you get great chicago pizza outside of chicago?
Uhura: it's the water
Uhura: it's not just the technique
JPennant: actually i think it is the technique
JPennant: the guy that owns that place in Berkeley lived in NYC for 20 years
JPennant: worked at H&H
JPennant: steams the bagels in this huge stainless steel vat
JPennant: uses cornmeal flour to dust the rolls
Uhura: that sounds "right"
JPennant: tastes about 95 percent right
JPennant: i think his weak link is that he's not running his ovens hot enough, but hey, close is good when theyre 5 minutes fresh :-)
JPennant: his stuff tastes fresh even 2 days later
Uhura: that's good
Uhura: very good
JPennant: but they sell so well, theyre constantly being replenished
Uhura: i hate when they get really hard
JPennant: yeah, Einsteins Bagel does that
JPennant: and Noah's Bagel out here.. bleh
Uhura: i mean was closed
JPennant: eh?
Uhura: i was just saying that there was an einstein bagel here but they went out of biz
JPennant: not a bad thing in my book
JPennant: if you cant hack it in New York as a bagel place, you dont deserve to be in business
Uhura: well, there are so many good places for a bagel here
Uhura: no
Uhura: you may be ablt to hack it anywhere else in the world
Uhura: ny is tough
Uhura: harder than anywhere else
Uhura: hence the lyrics--
Uhura: if i can make it here, i'll make it anywhere, it's up to you, new york-- you know the rest
JPennant: theyre making money off people who cant get any better around the country
JPennant: so, if they cant compete in New York, that tells you something
JPennant: for in NY if you bake it right, they will come
Uhura: this is true